by the way, desert storm, desert shield 1991, we did live in that kind of environment where we were essentially somewhat nomadic in saudi arabia eventually iraq we figured out privacy. >> the fact is that was one of the concerns at the time, but the fact is that they have rejiggered to be able to adapt to that kind of situation. women are fighter pilots now. so air force, navy has lived in that direction. the marines and the army obviously you're going to live in the same direction. there will have to be some adjustments in some situations, but again, based on the experience we already have, i think we can meet those challenges. [inaudible] it sounds like there may be certain combat operational soirÉes that women might be excluded from still appear but would be the reasons for that? what sorts of operations? >> requirements for a spectrum conflict, not just counterinsurgency, we really need to have standards that apply for a period importantly if we do decide a particular standard is so high that woman couldn't make it, the burden is now on the service to explain why is it that high? with the